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Renesisfury
Do we have any idea what the new mechs will be? I saw the bit on the homepage about the Turkina, and I saw a Guillotine in the art section of the same bit, are there others?
whammy
im not part of the mp4 project so i cant give you a complete list. just those that were confirmed in the forums here.

firefly, champion, guillotine, charger, hatamotochi,turkina , crusader, goshawk, linebaker?

teslacoil made a new model for the warhammer. i do love the warhammer.

there was also a malice - an mwda mech but as far as i know it was dropped. arcadia was working on a warhammer 2c - dont know whats the statuss on this one.

rumors were about some more mektek mechs. but i cant confirm that. there are alot of pictures in the gallery that could be part of the project but thats just guessing. teslacoil was working on a flashman iirc. verybad had a signaturepicture that locked like a wolverine but it was black on grey so it could be something very different or not even part of the project.matthes-ts had a signature pic , black on grey again - that looked like a bloodkite.

other than that i have no idea. but mektek stated on the mainpage that mp4 is more about gameplay not about huge loads of new mechs. i dont hink there will be as many new mechsin mp4 as came with mp3.

think well have to wait and see.




ed:)
Cam_Demonic
QUOTE (whammy @ Oct 19 2008, 16:28) *
firefly, champion, guillotine, charger, hatamotochi,turkina , crusader, goshawk, linebaker?


And Battle Cobra I think.
There is no render for Charger at "mp3.1 official artworks", can we have some info about this?
RaptorRage
Here's an older thread from the artwork forum. Keep in mind the Hatamoto-Chi is actually a derivative of the Charger chassis.

http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=71839
CWr Chewtobacco
i just have to wonder...since all the "impossible" things seem to be happening now..like directional jump jets...


what about LAMs?...earliest of the early MW varients..ie Robotech


or is that considered ...un-canon..erm like the crusader?
Cam_Demonic
QUOTE (RaptorRage @ Oct 19 2008, 19:07) *
Here's an older thread from the artwork forum. Keep in mind the Hatamoto-Chi is actually a derivative of the Charger chassis.

http://www.mektek.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=71839


Then, if Hatamoto=Charger, that give us 9 mechs. There is an unknown tenth mech? ph34r.gif
Spartacus
Hey, I thought all the mech slots have been used...are there going to be any mechs dropped to add these? Or is that weapons I am thinking of?
RaptorRage
QUOTE (Spartacus @ Oct 19 2008, 15:45) *
Hey, I thought all the mech slots have been used...are there going to be any mechs dropped to add these? Or is that weapons I am thinking of?


Have had to deal with a limited number of weapon slots over the course of the MekPaks leading to a few weapons dropped or consolidated previously, like the Inferno SRM2 and Artillery Tracer, the former being made a feature of the standard SRMs in MP3 and the latter replaced in use by the manual HUD indicators for figuring arty range. Mechs have been using a shared ID setup (as seen in the HUD damage display images) so there isn't really a limit in that regard.
Onyx
I had heard the word "NeuroMancer" being bandied about last year.
Sapphire Wolf
QUOTE (Cam_Demonic @ Oct 19 2008, 13:41) *
There is an unknown tenth mech? ph34r.gif

If so? This calls for a tenth mektek MP4 extra mech audition! tongue.gif
Jehosephat2k
QUOTE (Spartacus @ Oct 19 2008, 16:45) *
Hey, I thought all the mech slots have been used...are there going to be any mechs dropped to add these? Or is that weapons I am thinking of?


There are no longer any limits. We may even resurrect a bunch of weapons we had to drop in MP3 and before as well.
Vam
QUOTE (Renesisfury @ Oct 19 2008, 12:26) *
Do we have any idea what the new mechs will be? I saw the bit on the homepage about the Turkina, and I saw a Guillotine in the art section of the same bit, are there others?


Did you look at all of the mechs on the homepage? I'm pretty sure the mechs are all there that you are asking about. Read the entire post on the homepage =)
Snake Eyes
QUOTE (Jehosephat2k @ Oct 19 2008, 18:57) *
There are no longer any limits. We may even resurrect a bunch of weapons we had to drop in MP3 and before as well.

What i would like to see, if you are going to add other weapons to MP4, and this is just my 2 cents

Remove the regular MRMs & Clan SMRMs, and add the "Apollo" MRM (the Apollo FCS from Tac Ops for the MRM launchers).
The clans don't need/will never use/ an MRM launcher, and the IS MRM launcher is next to useless...

Also, maybe adding extended range LRMs, and the Silver-Bullet Gauss Rifle.......thats all for now





BTW, on a side note (more of a question really), is there a way to get new weapon types by selling certain weapons and buying them back (i.e. sell clan er-medium lasers, buy them back and U have heavy medium lasers)......
Jehosephat2k
QUOTE (Snake Eyes @ Oct 19 2008, 20:55) *
Remove the regular MRMs & Clan SMRMs, and add the "Apollo" MRM (the Apollo FCS from Tac Ops for the MRM launchers).
The clans don't need/will never use/ an MRM launcher, and the IS MRM launcher is next to useless...


Not in MP4. MRMs and ATMs (and SRMs) can use armor piercing ammo which makes them VERY useful with the new armor model.
Spartacus
QUOTE (Jehosephat2k @ Oct 19 2008, 20:13) *
Not in MP4. MRMs and ATMs (and SRMs) can use armor piercing ammo which makes them VERY useful with the new armor model.


Hey I am clueless about the RPG side of things...is AP ammo based on BT lore or is it just a really cool idea?

smile.gif
Orphland
QUOTE (Jehosephat2k @ Oct 19 2008, 18:57) *
There are no longer any limits. We may even resurrect a bunch of weapons we had to drop in MP3 and before as well.


That just seriously made my day.
BATTLEMASTER IIC
There is armor-piercing ammunition for standard autocannon in Battletech, but not missiles. However for missiles, there were special ammunition types which increased the warhead size at the cost of reducing the guidance system (making the missiles more inaccurate).

I am hoping that in becoming more of a simulation, all of the weapons from Battletech will be included (from the new Total Warfare Hyper-Assault Gauss Rifles to the Binary Lasers in Tactical Operations).

Of course we don't want to tire out the beta testers or the devs too much, but all of those shiny guns and missiles are part of my hopes anyway smile.gif
Snake Eyes
QUOTE (Jehosephat2k @ Oct 19 2008, 20:13) *
Not in MP4. MRMs and ATMs (and SRMs) can use armor piercing ammo which makes them VERY useful with the new armor model.

AAAAAHHHHH.......Now, thats cool......

AP ammo=Tandem-Charge and/or Axe warheads?
Shinigami
QUOTE (Orphland @ Oct 20 2008, 04:16) *
That just seriously made my day.

Now you have to wonder... will the nuke be back or am i just throwing out a red herring here? upto.gif cwm35.gif
Rymosrac
. . .

Red herring.
quintaglio
QUOTE (Rymosrac @ Oct 20 2008, 06:46) *
. . .

Red herring.


Gotta love those Nukes wink.gif
Knights_Hammer
QUOTE (Shinigami @ Oct 20 2008, 01:22) *
Now you have to wonder... will the nuke be back or am i just throwing out a red herring here? upto.gif cwm35.gif


It'll be back as a six slot missile with one shot and weigh thirty tons.......... ph34r.gif laugh.gif
:Ghost:
Yeah, why not an artillery rail-gun with the slots of an ac5, with the fire rate of a machine gun?
This is MW, not Quake 3 instafrag mod...
Onyx
QUOTE (Knights_Hammer @ Oct 21 2008, 01:52) *
It'll be back as a six slot missile with one shot and weigh thirty tons.......... ph34r.gif laugh.gif


Still worth it!
Project Dark Fox
QUOTE (:Ghost: @ Oct 20 2008, 12:13) *
Yeah, why not an artillery rail-gun with the slots of an ac5, with the fire rate of a machine gun?
This is MW, not Quake 3 instafrag mod...

But it sure as hell makes for an interesting play idea. laugh.gif
FireDog
QUOTE (Project Dark Fox @ Oct 20 2008, 22:35) *
But it sure as hell makes for an interesting play idea. laugh.gif


Hey, if anyone has time left over how about a real Destroyer (read Ship) with tri-rail guns turrents and quad Cluster arrow launchers. Really they do have the tonnage to carry them. :-)

It might make those early single player missions more interesting.
RkShaRkz
we should totally come up with new NPC vehicles that can fcuk you up in a jiffy. at least that's gonna provide some challenge to the campaigns wink.gif like the overlord mission for example.
Brakkyn
I'm a horrible pilot but I can't wait to hop into a Crusader and, you know...crusade.
:Ghost:
QUOTE (Project Dark Fox @ Oct 21 2008, 00:35) *
But it sure as hell makes for an interesting play idea. laugh.gif

Gladiator with 2 uac20 is nearly the same lol
zLobster
As far as i can understand there won't be any new mechs except mechs from this thread? I'm asking because my english is not good and also because i always wanted something like Locust/Koto, but on steroids. Something which weights like 55-70 tons and uses same design. Are there any mechs like Locust/Koto in BT Universe?
RkShaRkz
oh, oh - i want a 100 ton urbie wink.gif
Project Dark Fox
QUOTE (zLobster @ Oct 30 2008, 14:40) *
As far as i can understand there won't be any new mechs except mechs from this thread? I'm asking because my english is not good and also because i always wanted something like Locust/Koto, but on steroids. Something which weights like 55-70 tons and uses same design. Are there any mechs like Locust/Koto in BT Universe?

There's a Koto and a Locust IIC in the MekPaks which are real CBT units. The Koto being a Solaris VII variant of a regular Locust.
zLobster
QUOTE (Project Dark Fox @ Oct 30 2008, 22:45) *
There's a Koto and a Locust IIC in the MekPaks which are real CBT units. The Koto being a Solaris VII variant of a regular Locust.

I know it. I just want to know if there are some other mechs with same style chassies but in havier classes in BT Universe.
SgtMagor
Tess! wasup with the BigBird, will we be seeing that monster of a mech...you know hint, starts with an A...
Project Dark Fox
QUOTE (zLobster @ Oct 30 2008, 16:55) *
I know it. I just want to know if there are some other mechs with same style chassies but in havier classes in BT Universe.

Not that I am aware of.
whammy
QUOTE (RkShaRkz @ Oct 30 2008, 22:44) *
oh, oh - i want a 100 ton urbie wink.gif



Imp ???
BATTLEMASTER IIC
The Urbie needs its other brothers---Imp and Flashman cwm16.gif
Tamaraw
I'd like to see Jaegermech and Burrock. cool.gif
Eradicated
QUOTE (Tamaraw @ Oct 31 2008, 14:10) *
I'd like to see Jaegermech and Burrock. cool.gif


I quite like the Jaeger also, but the current XT-variant mechs do pretty much the same job.





Any chance of MT slipping in a colossal mech, say, the Ares? cwm32.gif
maru
I'd like to see Crimson Langur and Blood Kite. biggrin.gif

mmmmmmmmmm.... and Spirit, Arcas, Clint IIC, Atlas IIC, Annihilator (II)C, Hankyu , Bane (Kraken). happy.gif
Lðrd §åmûråî MC™
When did this become a request thread tongue.gif

I want a Ha Otoko. The clans noticed a cold gap in their hearts after they witnessed the hatamotochi, and thus the Ha Otoko was born cwm16.gif
Fire Hawk819
QUOTE (L�rd ��m�r�� MC� @ Nov 1 2008, 03:30) *
When did this become a request thread tongue.gif

I want a Ha Otoko. The clans noticed a cold gap in their hearts after they witnessed the hatamotochi, and thus the Ha Otoko was born cwm16.gif


Not going to happen. Even if you hit your knees and kiss the sweet sunshine, there's no way that we'll see the Ha Otoko in the game.
Lðrd §åmûråî MC™
QUOTE (Fire Hawk819 @ Nov 1 2008, 01:34) *
Not going to happen. Even if you hit your knees and kiss the sweet sunshine, there's no way that we'll see the Ha Otoko in the game.


Take your hand and move it really fast over your head wink.gif

Speaking of mechs, I just remembered I still need to finish my highlander 2c model.
RkShaRkz
I'll seriously have to lay some truth on you guys. the MP4 has been in the works for QUITE some time. all you got until now was a SOON, and now you've started to get some actual footage as well.

the content (at least the mechs) were decided AGES ago. no matter how much you donate/whine/ask is probably going to change the "no" you're gonna get for an answer for any of the "requests".

i know you guys knew this, but it's just a reminder to get you down to ground level.
TransFAN92
QUOTE (CWr Chewtobacco @ Oct 19 2008, 14:07) *
i just have to wonder...since all the "impossible" things seem to be happening now..like directional jump jets...


what about LAMs?...earliest of the early MW varients..ie Robotech

Macross... not robotech... Macrosss *twitch*

As for me, add the Savage Coyote, Shrike (DA mech I know, but bite me), Turkina, and the Scylla... what do you mean I am a biased Clanner!

But seriously, is VB's Turkina is going in? Or was it just Eye Candy to tease us all?
RkShaRkz
QUOTE (TransFAN92 @ Nov 3 2008, 19:15) *
Macross... not robotech... Macrosss *twitch*

As for me, add the Savage Coyote, Shrike (DA mech I know, but bite me), Turkina, and the Scylla... what do you mean I am a biased Clanner!

But seriously, is VB's Turkina is going in? Or was it just Eye Candy to tease us all?


it would be somewhat ************ to make it, show it off, and not put it in, wouldn't it? smile.gif
so to answer your question - yes, it's going in.
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